As a winston main i strongly disagree as winston has glasses therefore he is smarter than the rest of the cast leading to easy outplays.

no such thing as power creep in a non-gear based fps

what about season 27

lol tracer in B??? nah

18:53 sweet shatter bro!

As a tank maining rienheart I agree tbh hes not as useful as he would be lower than gold too many dps dumps mainly bastions with a double shield tank mercy and baptiste and you cant break it unless using sigma or road hog it's just the meta at gold rank it seems

haw dare yee call Lucio a low dmg hero

Just play quick play

Briggite in A tier? What?

I'd argue mercy gets so much value in this meta because she enables the strong dps so much, and zen too, due to damage boost. Not because she has particularly high heals, as she barely out heals Winston's gun

tracer definitely a tier

How is redshell rank 1 and 2 on lucio only

it would've been nice to get a heads up that Winston is a free kill before I started my comp queue.

Damn, both my mains are d tier

Another season, another junk snub

My god, what’s happened to this game? Years later and it’s all about immortality and baiting.

Is this the professor from mtg??

whoever is in charge of game balance does NOT understand the game and does NOT know what the game should be either...

Hi been sat trying to get on over watch for an hour is there any advice on how to get onto a server faster as love the game

ZoeTDT Thompson

2 miesięcy temu

True but I'm trying to get the free skins so need to win six games to get the skins

Nick F

2 miesięcy temu

Choose Flex lol

Zen should be in S and free kill tier tbh

electric boogaloo

why is mercy with echo mccree hog and ashe...

Jesus, remember when this game for balanced and fun to play for like a month? Nice going Blizzard

just got back from season 20, good to know that most of my faves are bottom tier

6:14 soooo, when that lucy ult getting a buff? It barely even feels effective when pushing through chokes.

18:38 I mean, you WERE in quick play...

they keep comparing rein to sig like i cant use cover n demolish a sigma with my hammer

Brig is & always will be good, I feel like she's just better than Mercy in every category, Mercy relies on dps/tanks to get value, not to mention how single target she is

aw man. Im kinda sad seeing my 2 mains in the c tier. Reaper and genji. At least my closet main mcree is in thr s tier

I played with my little brother on my old gold account, and according to a rather aggressive silver mercy, 'Zen is trash, I should heal more and dps less.'

Me being a junkrat main since S1 this hurts to see but its true

I think A tier is a bit too high for Brig, the unrelenting nerfs have made her less valuable, hell even if she got her 25 hp back she'd be good, but atm she doesn't.

I'm a self admitted edgelord, all I wanna know is if Reaper can still do work this season. And if so, how do you switch it up to adapt around it? Alot of it feels like getting lucky with flank picks. And the team isn't being as aggressively mobile to get on objectives with him as they used to be, or at least what I've observed in open cue comp on PS4. Looking at you Sombra.

You know that scene in the Overwatch 2 hype trailer that felt like years ago cause we haven't had news about it yet? That one scene where Winston is looking steely eyed in the face of death? Yeah, imagine that, but the big robot is actually the meta of the game currently.

Also, this is my personal opinion, but l honestly feel like if they are gonna nerf Sigs shield deployment, in return they should give SOME of its health back. Like, at least make it 900 again. l'd be content with that honestly.

l noticed how when l picked up zen l suddenly was...putting in work. Like, don't think l'm some play of the game zenny, heck no, but.... l was getting MANY kills and doggone it was something l couldn't believe. l'm glad it wasn't my imagination that zen felt like he had power.

I love Overwatch, it's one of my favorite games, but the way the game is balanced is not really fair. I am a Mercy and a Winston main, tho I can play all tanks and healers, I feel like if I'm not around at least two decent healers or dps that can protect me from the enemies I'll get destroyed in a sec. The dps in the other hand pretty much only get buffs while the shields are trash rn they're pretty much overpowered, specially Reaper and Junkrat. In a game as Reinhardt I was getting healed by a Mercy and an Ana a Reaper came and just killed me with 4 bullets, I don't know what Blizzard is doing, but I hope they nerf the dps or buff the shields/healing. Like Sigma his shield has around the same health as Winston's, but his shield should be around a 1000 now since he has such a long shield cooldown specially since all his other abilities have massive cooldowns as well, he's just not playable anymore as a shield tank but more as an off-tank like Zarya/Roadhog

I haven’t played OW in maybe a year or so or watched content in a long time but I missed your voice talking informatively about the game. Fun video, keep up the good work

Pff this game, as a tank main its been a pain for over a year already. This game isnt fun as a tank main. Yet you need one every game.

Huh, what a time to get back to OW as a Rein main, right into poke. Especially since the last time I actively played was the Goats meta.

I’m upset that I haven’t heard of your channel before today

If this doesnt hit the nail on the head than idk what does. I'm beyond impressed that you've put all this into a video.

Joey

2 miesięcy temu

Maybe im making mistakes, but I see that "protect the president" playstyle always in use now. Mercy and Reinhardt + another shield tank and A tier healer. You have duel shield, invincibility and a revive while dps fire away from a distance. It's hard to play the angles and heights even with that combo wombo

Tbh let's be happy that the game isn't tanks rule anymore. Game is better than most of its history. But tracer in B? Even post nerf she might be S

Echo is def top tier

How do you feel about Zenyattas possible upcoming nerf?

Obob kanaman hhahahahha

Honzo on top and bastion on bot

I used to be a winston main when i played this game, this games me sad

I would disagree since this game is a team game Winston is probably the greatest tank having a. Zen and ana and play with him and gett nano and discord melts people

I’d definitely switch Genji out with Junk in tier list. Junkrat has a far easier time getting kills against the A Tier healers than Genji does.

Freedo (hopefully spelled correctly) has carried us from 2020 to 2021. God bless his back

As a long time players here is my completely uneducated idea for a 2021 Road Map if the game is delayed until 2022: Blizzcon: Announce OW going Free To Play (mid March) Announce new “Clash” mode (Live on PTR) Announce Delay of OW2 Mid-March: Release A Content Drop Archives Free to Play New Clash Mode *creates momentum and gets players back May: Anniversary Event *keeps momentum going with hopes of coasting through summer months. August: Release closed beta *allow access via twitch drops so it creates huge momentum. October: Closed beta ends and Halloween Event Starts *ride this momentum to Blizzcon Blizzcon: Announce set release date and open beta for Jan December: Christmas event January 2022: Release open beta Game releases on Anniversary in May It’s not great but it would create a constant amount of content to hold attention until the new game comes out.

This is the best video this channel has ever put out that I've seen. Kudos on a really great job.

I agree with most points but junk is way better than most dps in low mid ranks. I’m finding sigma in a great place atm, only rein is better IMO for tanks. Your healing rankings is probably spot on

As a beginner it’s a little harder to understand these and I tend to get lost in the lingo being uninformed... I hope I’ll git gud soon! ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ

I am in bronze and it is pretty sad that winston is just a cheese pick

I just wanna play monke

Every time I watch your video's I feel you only give out half the info that is really needed... Very misleading at times.

He really clowned on my boy winston with that rank

Winston is best what Orisa... But he other team counter he no is good idea play Winston

....Junkrat in D tier? Have to heavily disagree there. I don't know how he is played in higher tiers of the game, but Silver, Gold and even Platinum he can be a game changer.

So, the massive damage creep is back, but this time it’s for one-shot combos and not snipers

MegaAgent J

2 miesięcy temu

@Conrad Gude-Martinez honestly, comparing the design on release and modern day is like night and day, like look at zenyatta’s volley ( mechanic around from release) compared to hanzo’s storm arrow( added much later), volley takes some prediction and can make good moments, for storm arrow you just press E to kill an enemy

Conrad Gude-Martinez

2 miesięcy temu

Correct, look at widow, hanzo storm arrow, and echo spam combo, all one shotting 200-300 health heroes, and can melt heroes like roadhog at a distance and drop him before they are in danger themselves

Echo needs to be nerfed. Tracer should not be getting nerfed at all. Hanzo didnt need the buff. Ball still dominating since the nerf barely scratched the surface. Zen should be fine with either 30% or 25% discord depebding on what direction the meta heads towards.g And Sigmas damage should have been nerfed instead of his barrier because it didnt fix the problem while also making him less of a main tank and more frustrating to play.

I think Torb is underrated, he can shred all the good tanks and his turret and ultimate deny a lot of space to have your zen work in. Ps. As a long time zen main I’m so happy 😭😭😭😭😭

nerf hanzo please

As a tank player i cant flex anymore i have to literally have to play. Rein or zarya everyone got fuxked

I only played Zen and went 2-9 so that was fun. Dps diff every game

Meta trash

what about zen being nerfed in the new update?

I reallyyyyy wish I was high enough rank to play with ppl who know what they're doing. I'm getting close, I can see myself improving. I seriously can't wait to be at the higher level of ranked

Finally my Dva gets some love

Thanks to this video now a bunch of platinum supports insta lock zen thinking they’re gonna pull any sort of weight

"Zenyatta being the best and Winston being the worst" Sadge

You didn't think about a Rein/Winston combo

So what you are saying is that the next experimental card is going to have: Zenyatta: Discord reduces from 30% to 25% Hanzo: Storm arrow recovery time increased per shot from 0.25 to 0.3, arrow speed increased from 110 to 125, arrow damage reduced to 100, from 125. (Stronger against other dps, weaker against tanks) Echo: Tri-shot, damage reduced from 17 to either 16 or 15. Sticky Bombs, explosion damage reduced from 25 to 20. (Landing all sticky bombs results in 150 damage) Baptiste: primary fire damage reduced from 24 to 20 Immortality Field cooldown increased from 25 to 35 minimum. McCree: Fan the hammer, damage reduced from 50 to 40, fire rate increased to 1 per 0.1s from 1 per 0.13s. (Increases dps of fan the hammer From 385 to 400, reduces the damage from 300 to 200) I still think Echo and Sombra would be prime candidates for 175 base health, but I would check game balance before implementing the health adjustments. I still think Brig needs to be adjusted, either her Repair pack healing, or the range on her healing. She should not be able to put heal a Winston killing a zen 19 metres away just by throwing 3 packs and going back to swinging, shield bashing, Whipshot etc. No other support can save an ally like that while turning around and focusing on the rest of the fight in the meantime, nor should they be able to do so. I’m just kidding. These ideas make too much sense

Id definelty put sombra at s or at least A emp is still the strongest ultimate in the game

Screw the fucking storm arrows buff. I'd rather have scatter arrow back.

Welp those Zen nerfs may have changed things up pretty considerably

Zeniata an tracer nice comb

its funny that i just recently climbed from 2500 to 3000 by only playing sym, with the exception of going soldier on really big sightline maps. shes honestly so good at low tiers with rein zarya

i have a solution: make damage doing only a % of damage to shied, for example: if a shot does 50 to an enemy, just make that this damage will only do a 60% of the total to the shield. you can even add some "power up" to some characters, for example: junkrat does 80% instead and so on, so that there will be characters that can really breack shields fast and other that will just struggle

winston is really good only vs not coordinated teams, that's why is still great in silver and decent in gold. but as soon as the enemy team cooperate you just live a real hell

I said all this shit months ago. Huh, interesting. But everyone told me to shut up, I don't understand because I'm Gold. Whatever. If you're looking to grow a little bit, you should watch some console VODs and discuss Switch Torb Junkrat meta. With a peppering of Reaper, Pharah, and Bastion. Blizzard isn't going to balance for them. And the entire playerbase is full of idiots throwing by just standing on cart nonstop and shitting on players who try to do the right thing. Then the SR system punishes them because "other players don't do that." Big neglected market waiting for you.

The only thing i hate about this is sigmas shield. All it really does is “wow i can die to dvas ult now” type of nerf

I think Freedo will be surprised when he sees that Contenders Korea is playing Winston/Zarya to huge success right now. Not that it changes the ranked meta... but still. And I heard that the "Double Bubble" comp requires like literally all 6 players to have perfect positioning and cooldown usage for it to work lmao EDIT: Bit of a useless comment given how this tier list is about ranked and not pro play (kinda forget that sometimes LOL) but it's very interesting how different semi-pro play and ranked play are rn

Just saying, although junkrat is D tier, he don’t need a buff, he’s a literal god character on console and just running him will win you entire games; he just needs a rework

Just saying, Winston is due for at least a small buff, probably a small damage one and maybe a cooldown buff

RIP my man Junkrat ;(

Tanking and healing: Got the power creep nerfed out of it so it's reasonably in a good state. Community: Now Blizzard there's something you've missed, the DPS are...? Blizzard: Too strong? Community: Yes, so how do we make it so they aren't as strong? Blizzard: W-we...we....WE BUFF THE TANKS Community: NO

Winston's still free SR below 2700 but allllllllllright. You should stop pretending these tier lists apply below masters

this is a very weird meta

I feel like we should have voice lines for when enemy players use their Ultimates.

Mandr 19

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what?

I honestly would put Echo and Ball in S tier, they are basically must picks rn, especially considering ball is practically the only good tank left, and echo is just busted to shit

Yay Zen main 😄 now, allies need to play their part and not feed and get staggered 24/7 😂

Sombra mains love to waste their hack on me, an Ana main, which is always funny because I can take over half her health in two shots and she’s really easy for my peeling teammates to clean her up

They should bring back Mercy’s old ult or at least give resurrect a small AOE. Would make squishier team comps way more viable

Tanks are the least played role but still getting nerfed? Lay off the tanks and nerf some dps please? (I play a few heroes in every role so I'd like to think I'm not super biased on this)

Wasn't the game in its "best state ever around mid-2020", so what happened lol

bigbrothers

2 miesięcy temu

gold and plat players who can't aim cried and whined about Ana and Genji so now we're stuck with this crap lol

I like your videos but this makes no sense at least not in plat gold or silver and I’m guessing dimond as well even tho I’m not that high anymore Winston with any help at all murderds zen wether he’s gets stunned or if zen is protected buy his team cause Winston is just dealing the quintuple the damage instead like you need to make another more believable one cause unless the game drastically changes there will never be a tearless where zen is number one and Winston is at the bottom it’s literally just not help possible with how overwatch is set up for low-level gameplay at least

Dva being usable again as a Dva main makes me happy. Being a tank main in general doesn’t make me happy rn