WoW TBC Classic: What We Know So Far
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A compilation of all announcements, interviews, rumors and more regarding The Burning Crusade Classic.
Beta opt in: worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/wowclassic
Eurogamer interview: www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-02-19-world-of-warcraft-burning-crusade-classic-to-get-paid-character-cloning-and-boosts-and-pre-nerf-raid-bosses
IGN interview: www.ign.com/articles/the-burning-crusade-classic-will-have-more-changes-than-original-wow-classic
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Komentarze
In the video I mentioned my worries with arena seasons being behind the pve content. That was addressed in the q&a today! They're moving the arena seasons up some phases to keep them on par with pve content. As of 2/20 they look like: Phase 1: Karazhan, Gruul's Lair, and Magtheridon's Lair, Arena season 1 Phase 2: Serpentshrine Cavern and Tempest Keep, Arena season 2 Phase 3: Hyjal, Black Temple, Arena season 3 Phase 4: Zul'Aman Phase 5: Sunwell, Arena season 4 A big thing that came to light today, it's likely that LW drums will be nerfed/changed(this is also a big point of debate as they were looking to be "required" for high end raiding): classic.wowhead.com/news=321063/leatherworking-drums-benefits-likely-changed-in-burning-crusade-classic If you'd like to join a TBC centered community to prep/talk with others I joined this one recently, lots of activity...get in here! discord.gg/RR3UeZcdev
Thaddeus Rhett
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Dunno if anyone cares but yesterday I hacked my friends Instagram account using Instaportal. Just google for it if you wanna try it
Swedish Meatball
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Content Phases To allow players to stay on top of the latest content and gear up with their friends, we’ve set up a potential plan for additional content releases for Burning Crusade Classic to occur over 5 phases. As with anything in early development, these plans are subject to change and we look forward to player feedback. Phase 1: Karazhan, Gruul’s Lair, and Magtheridon’s Lair Raids will open Phase 2: Serpentshrine Cavern, Tempest Keep, and Arena Season 1 Phase 3: Hyjal, Black Temple, Arena Season 2 Phase 4 : Zul’Aman and Arena Season 3 Phase 5: The Sunwell and Arena Season 4 From the official blizzard so season 1 will be in phase 2
Kevin T
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what we know so far is want we always knew BC is a shit expansion that started WoW on the path to the current state of retail wow nuf said.
David
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Did you take up smoking? Or did you just wake up when you recorded this video. Youre more monotone than usual.
Gino
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I have a question, I have 1 original vanilla account made when the game was first released and 9 more accounts I started in TBC. Will all my old mounts, skins, achievements be included if I make a classic or tbc character with any of my old accounts? Would be a shame I couldn’t keep all the progress I made through the years especially with all the rare mounts I have from waaaaaay back. Ty in advance 👍🏼 and as always ty for all of your vids, I’ve been stalking your channel since you started lol...
I know a lot of people don't like the paid boost, but honestly for my friends who played bc back then and want to play it now again it's huge. They can level with me when bc comes out. No one of us got the time like as we were kids, so it's realy nice to have it again. Leveling sure is part of the game. But for us, the end game is the real game.
im happy they do the level boost, cause i simply wont bother leveling so i wont play tbc either.
more videos of Memories from tbc pls
I think the reasoning is they want the "level boosting is bad because I had to level why dont everyone else have to suffer the same shit that I did" pagans on classic era realms
I can't wait to use my 58 boost!
You should take some pre-work out before recording for your videos.
how does a fresh server fix the economy? it'll just happen again and then people keep asking for wipe. This happened all the time on private servers, but those that ask for wipe are usually the first to stop playing.. then they come back asking for fresh again.
When paying $15 per month isn't enough milking out for a old ass video game
Where you been
You have to understand that they need the level boost services to pay for the CEO's next year 200 million salary!
The real problem here is not the level boost exist, but you need to pay for it.
The abundant level of disgust when he says "level boost" is gold
people use gold to power lvl already. 1 paid 60 wont be that bad
When u skip the grind u skip the importance of the game 🎮 ridiculous
Fuck character boosts for TBC.
Jesus, you cry babies about the boost. Gtf over it. Its so heavily restricted it hardly matters at all. Fk
So many class , professions, gold farm guide. no guide on which server to chose for new players who will be boosting a character to play TBC Classic. :c
Is it me or Mad's getting sassier by the day?
Man... Classic realy ruined this channel... I remember when people were calling Madseason the succesor to Hayven Games... Now we barely get a video a month and is usualy classic garbage guides... Im sorry MadSeason... You were my hero... but im realy disappointed right now... Where is the WotLK chapter of the evolution of wow? The patch by patch changes? Azeroth Arsenal? TimeWarp? Hello?!
If blizz is going to allow payable boosting.. then they need to make a server specifically for people that are planning on doing that, and keep them away from regular people like me.
All i got to say is back in the day if you wanted to play with your friends in tbc you leveled a character to 70 from 1?
OH BABY BC IS PRENERF?!?! I'm coming back bois. See you on the alliance guys
Oy yeah, malding over level boost because paying mage runs is such an original experience It is not very smart to expect everyone to grind this mind numbing leveling several times for their alts just because you did
imagine staying on wow classic after doing everything..leaves you with running the same shit over and over with no more content because you beat it all 10 times a day
If the people who play tbc are anything like the classic crowd i won't be playing. They remind me a lot of the high school jock who's 27 years old and lives in the past.
I hope they will adress the economy on launch issue. People with thousands of gold will just buy their epic fly mount after reaching 70. That is actually the best argument for fresh BC servers. They cant just nulify the gold although it could be a solution.
Pre-nerd Bosses are super exciting in my opinion. Especially because they will later on nerf them. This creates some kind of unique flair for your server, where there are guilds that made it prenerf, and some that did not. Its reviving the spirit of the server/community like it was back then, at least to a certain degree. Also starting with 2.4.3 is totally fine for me, so that mages dont start out as useless buffmachines in PVE only to become better very much later on. They are doing lots of things right in TBC classic, and only a few points, at least for me, i could complain about. The character boost though is scary. It did a big job in making WoW worse when it came out back then, and i dont see any reason to cater to new players wanting to play TBC, because if they want to, they will level a character up themselves. And i HOPE they keep attunements. They make a big part of character progression and character lore for me. Its still partially an RPG and i want it to stay like so. Reducing the rep cap for HC keys is "fine-ish" for me, not perfect, but acceptable. Removing attunement quest chains for raids would be straight up bullshit.
Yeah you're objectively wrong about level 58 level boosts being bad it's a one-time level boost per account once overall on every server you can only do it once on one server. this is going to bring back a bunch of people who stopped playing because they did not enjoy the slow leveling of classic and it's going to bring in a bunch of new people because they don't have to go through the b******* slog and yes leveling in classic while enjoyable the first time or maybe even the seconds time I would say it's a very fair assumption to say the majority of players really f****** hate leveling in classic this can be seen by the overall general positive outlook on the level boosts and the fact that there are hundreds and hundreds of players every day on every server looking for me to boosting and paying for mage boosting. The sole reason I don't make any new characters to level is because leveling is a pain in the ass and I don't feel like literally spending five to six days literally 5 to 6 days playing to then hit level 60 and do the stuff I want to do
Oh, and he needs another video to cry about it more. Jesus dude, your entire channel is nothing but classic zealot garbage now.
Oh look madseason crying about something classic related, thats new and exciting.
Level boosting defeats the purpose of why I want these classic revamps
jo tr
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@Steven Gordon i dont know. You seemed to be crying about it so I just thought I would help you out.
Steven Gordon
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@jo tr damn dude you’re so smart. Why didn’t I think of that?
jo tr
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Don't use it then
Character boost will ruin it! The good old days, high level meant real experience, now you will have fucking tourists in Classic as well
Level boosting, shit I wish I would have known this 72 hours of my life ago.
Your WoW videos are just amazing, so informative! I love every bit of it!!! Thank you for the hard work you put into it!!!
shitshow classic number 2 incoming , recycling old games again... guys move on do yourselves a favour
YOU might hate the level up.. BUT.. i joined Skeram server for Classic launch.... 7 hours each day to log in... i COULD NOT log in until like 10 or 11 pm... and i work 10 hour days 5 or 6 days a week... so yeah i cant level up and stay relevant with friends..
8:53
Blizzard is a pathetic former shell of itself. They are literally re-creating shit from the past, why wont they put together a team to actually come out with some new shit! I am done cancelled my sub several months ago, making us play the same shit we played 10 years ago is the biggest grift in gaming
why people complain about boosts so much? All am i hearing is it's bad, but i never heard any explanation why it bothers people.
Omg here we go again. I was religiously watching your videos before classic was released, now I'm back on that hype train with madseason
I can finally relive my childhood memory and feel like a little kid again. I am pissed about the Character boost, stupidity thing ever and how all the last noobs are gonna pay for it and get to max level just to get ahead
activion wanted the lvl 58 boost not blizzard from what i understand to be the issue
Level boosts should not be in Classic. That's a real shame.
Jason Destruc
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the level boost is for TBC
Also, for those concerned about the cloning he mentioned. The clones will be based on a specific snapshot at prepatch. So it wont be a clone of whenever you initiate the process but of your character from the exact snapshot. But at least one character can basically take the whole guild bank from my understanding.
Only played classic for about 3 months. Would love to start again with TBC but I would really prefer a fresh server so im not massively behind goldwise. Also it would be fun to do all the classic dungeons again for the last time with plenty of other people levelling up.
now i kind of lost the interest in TBC Classic. i was hyped first but lvl boost? having to pay to clone a character? eeeeh i dont know anymore. its the blizzards greed that keeps pushing me off from their games if the cloning would cost 2-3€ i would be ok with it but knowing blizzard its going to be in 20-30€ range
You covered what I needed to know. Thank you
I know the 1 the 58 boost is a huge topic for a lot of people. And let's be honest about this it's a cash grab It's a way to monetize that's what it is. I don't personally care However Let's just pretend for a minute if we could because for most people it's either it's in the game or it's not. Well what if we gave blizzard some alternative options. So after me thinking I came up with 2 And a curious If people think they're better or worse. Alternative one Give the account itself a really big experience post kind of like the recruit a friend except a lot bigger. So what if instead of A level boost What they give is a really huge experience boost let's say you get 5 times experience on the Actual account. This would help players still have to play through the world and it would also help with the bots because the thing is of the experience boost is on the account itself. That account is a lot more valuable Not only that it is also helps with blood elves injury they also because of your king 5 times experience you're going to level a ton faster obviously. I am a if you can go from 1 to 60 in A-day Granted you're still playing but you're still doing it. My opinion is give me that over that because instead of getting one character all Leveled up I get to level a bunch of characters a lot. But I still have to do it On top of that it does Make it harder on bots because it makes the account a lot more valuable if I pay $60. And now every single character I made on classic tbc 1-60 Is 5 times I'm gonna be a lot more careful. Why because now my account has an investment more so On top of that this would kind of get rid of the need for boosting. Think about if I can just get from 1 to 60 in A-day just by questing and grinding why do I care about a boost from a mage? So there's also that However the down points It's gonna feel really clunky and really weird leveling and you're level 30 and still an elin forest. On top of that gearings going to feel weird especially even if the quest rewards are buffed it's still gonna feel really awkward. However at 60 there's always the PVP gear grand Marshal In pre patch so depen how you see that. Alternative number 2 Heirlooms or boa Gear I completely well where this was introduced in wrath of the lich king. However if we're comparing albums to apples here now would you level as fast as you would having a 5 times experience boost no. However it would make leveling feel a lot better because you always have gear piece You don't have to worry about finding gear as you level. And it will give you something solid to start out at 60 with However how do the implemented I personally think the best way would be they put in the mount and pet tabs And the heirloom tabs Like they did in cata. You pay $60 they just give it to you You have basically a leveling gear set now are you gonna be better off than someone that was raging. Naxx no I would say maybe you're a club lands to about off the top of my head I think about zg/mc Level of gear? Anyway On top of that would they could do is put in the other system and classic wrath where they could upgrade the pieces from 60 to 70. Yes I know this didn't happen in the burning crusade but neither did the level boost. Anyway those are just my thoughts about possible are alternatives however I would like to ask? Which Which one is worse. A one time level boost 1 to 58. BOA gear Aura really big experience boost on the actual account? Just my thoughts just wondering
8:24 I've never heard him speak in this pitch before. He must really be pissed off.
If you think the boost is actually gonna affect the game in a negative way....I can only imagine how small ur brain is....
Wow fans. Never happy. No matter what.
Soo YOU killed Bamby's Mom T_T At least you also killed Bamby, and didn't let him suffer!
I think MadSeason may be a tiny bit upset about level boost.
You might be a bit misinformed with the boost; as far as we've been told, it's an optional once-per-account boost explicitly for BC servers, and you won't be able to boost draenei and/or blood elves. I don't think it's as likely to be as problematic as it's made out to be here! As for the paid cloning option, I don't see why that's a problem. If someone wants to finish gearing their character in a faithful Classic manner but want to be able to continue into BC with that character, it only seems fair to provide the option. I'd be more concerned about the current economy of the game, where some people have metric tonnes of gold. Some people I know already have their epic flying money banked up along with all the gold they could need for levelling professions without issue.
Any prep videos? Love the content
I find this to be the height of laziness from Blizzard. While yes Shadowlands is new, is it really that hard for Blizz to do Classic? They're not updating anything like they attempted with Warcraft 3 and are going to attempt with Diablo 2. Instead its just a release of the same game from almost 20 years ago. Its lazy. They honestly don't have to put that much effort into it other than making sure they have servers available for it.
I love the boost now i dont need to play classic , which i had no fun in , and can jump straight into BC with my friends that played classic . Its literally not a big deal yall just drama queens
Oooookay . .. we get it, you don't like cheapass level boosters lol no one does, it breaks the game balance and rewards "elitists" for wanting to gogogogogo and skip content.
What I know is that the bots will run even more rampant. Not giving Bli$$ard money for that.
I dont even play wow anymore but your videos are great!
PLAY the game.....EARN your gold....FEEL the thrill of playing " pure"...... you are LOVED MadSeason.....Thank YOU for being you!!!!!!!!
I doubt mad will see this But let me try and justify the paid stuff So first cloning / duping The cloning doesnt allow for duping gold because everyones character gets duped at the same time, regardless of if you pay for the dupe Both versions of the character are then locked What then happens is you get 1 free unlock per character, and if you want you can pay for the other version to be unlocked This means that you cant dupe gold by systematically having players move gold around So why force players to pay real money to unlock the other version of each character? Well a big issue with duping all the characters is anyone that no longer cares about classic / tbc can share all their gold to a friend, "i dont care about tbc, so here is my 12k gold ive farmed up since your going to actually play tbc" adding a pay wall pretty heavily disincentivises this since few people are going to pay money just to give away their ard earned gold Is it a perfect solution? No Are some people still going to pay just to give away their gold? Probably But i think its a pretty good solution to the issue
this is like ASMR and i love it
I expected a BC version of wow but i was disappointed with how it came out, I don't like the idea of progressing in expensions i would rather have had a clean and fresh start for everyone. Or at least make different servers with the possibilty to stay in classic or move on to BC BUT from scratch. I love the idea of everyone starting from 0.
That Blizzard is dead?
80 dislikes how? I guess if you don’t haters your prob doing something wrong
characters are snapshotted at TBC release. the choice to clone it to the classic era realm clones the snapshot. this stops duping on the classic era realms.
I cant wait to boost my new shaman draenei....
I really like level boost, it will make more people try out TBC that had no interest in classic, that being said the price... I won't pay it to try it out.
will i be able to switch from a PVE to a PVP server going into tbc?
DrewPicklesTheDark
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If it's like how the game was then, you won't be able to. However with the boost they have already shown they don't care about integrity if profit is involved, so who knows at this point.
give them more cash all yu need to do
I think the paid character boost is a necessary evil. On one hand, yes i leveld several classes to 60 in classic and there is a certain pride for me in it. But on the other hand, iv also paid mages to boost one of my alts from 15-50 and i can see why you want to buy a 58 boost for tbc. Its not like retail where levling is super smooth and easy, if you are not intressted in classic or leveling in the old world (Given how much they improved it in tbc with all the other things such as new spells, talents and so on) its just a drag and will keep many from even trying BC that have not leveled in classic at all. But at the same time i understand peoples frustration with this and all i can say that were lucky its only once per account and not unlimited
why are you so upset about the paid level boosts? It makes perfect sense to me.
its been many many years since ive played retail wow...no plans of ever returning again wont go into detail as to why...i really do enjoy watching your videos and have for sometime now cant remember how i ever ended up on your channel in the first place because its been THAT long ago...i appreciate the time and effort you have taken to show us all your stuff you post up back in the day ive played with alot of really decent people stayed friends with a bunch even after i stopped playing and looking at them and looking at you honestly i dont think ive ever met or encountered anyone that has as much love and passion for wow as you do...and would of loved to of met you ingame when i did play because it would of been such a true honor and privilege to have had you as a friend and alot of fun too...just wanted to say thank you for all you do take care because i care :)
*This* is why I'll be leveling a drenai. Because at least when people look at me they'll know I leveled this toon.
David Boggs
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@Da Maestro You cared enough to comment. thanks for caring
Da Maestro
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no one cares
They won't make an extra server where you can't boost lol. For many reason! Like player separation, or the labeling of "fake" servers. Then on top of that, they lose money for people who started on those servers and jut kept clicking accept without reading.
Thank god for level boost
Blizzard please create fresh TBC servers with the inability to boost. That'd be a dream come true.
Is there really prestige to leveling anymore? It's just a fucking timesink. I love the fact that you get 1 level boost.
Can't wait to join a Gruul's Lair pug again! Enter the instance...someone accidentally pulls the Krosh...we wipe...we regroup....the mage tank accidentally pulls Krosh...we wipe...we regroup...someone decides to pull out his mechanical Yeti...we watch in horror as he charges Krosh...we wipe...everyone leaves the pug....
Seal of Blood damage in a raid environment is less than 1% but I guess you could justify it for PvP.
Great video as usual. Economy could be a big issue, and with gold buying/botting/GDKP's out of control I fear TBC is going to continue the trend of being pay-2-win.
I really dont think you need to worry about a lvl 58 in blues, when theres going to be level 60s in full naxx who did rmt for most of their gold and gear.
happy about the pre nerf raids.
Not what I wanted. I wanted Classic to show everyone that the game design in Vanilla was awesome, and that this would spawn new games or perhaps even a Classic+ game. It might still, but I don't think this will come from Activision.
I love what im hearing, other than buying a lvl 58...... that bothers me....
My prediction: Someone or a group of tryhards will totally scew the economy because they are sat with 200k+ gold. These people will buy every primal fire,air,water,earth,mights,crafting materials, gems etc etc etc. These items will be inflated artificially meaning Mr Joe Casual is going to have to fight in hugely populated areas where people are all trying to tag mobs 24/7 OR buy a 1 primal fire out of the 30+ you need for 50g. If you want a good example look at the prices of Black Lotus in Classic right now. Farmed 24/7 by nerds/bots leaving the average player 0% chance of finding one naturally. They then make up the price and people HAVE to pay because EVERYONE NEEDS FLASKS. Rich get richer by manipulating the entire server and then sell the gold. EVERY CLASS AND PROFESSION NEEDS PRIMAL MIGHTS.
WhiteMoose
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Primal fire - Heavily farmed or low drop rate Primal water - Heavily farmed or low drop rate Primal shadow - so easy lol Primal air - Literally 6 mobs in SMV that can drop them at even a half decent rate. Only other way is low low drop chance or dungeons. A boomkin bot will constantly tag these. Primal earth - fairly easy to get since earth elementals are common in TBC Primal might - need 1 of each primal and a 3 day (?) cool down to make 1. These will be bought out for the first few months as everyone needs multiple Primal Mights for multiple different crafts. This is one example of many. Also if you are rolling Rogue with the dreams of getting them warglaives I hope you are willing to bid more REAL MONEY to the guild leader or im afraid to say you aint getting shit. By the time you complain it will already be done. Sure you might rage quit but who cares the server population will be 30% rogues.
So turns out the whole rerolling Classic by Blizz only intention was to sniff your wallet over and over and over and over and over again
I dont want to jump the gun here considering you wanted to do a follow up on the paid stuff but.. From my prospective its not an issue. Almost right after that you transitioned into the idea of FRESH. Well the sad fact is WE as a community ruined our game. I mean its to the point now that we basically need a wow token for the of the amount of gold in game right now. We all wanted to level up and make friends and play the game and... welp after everyone's second alt they just said fk it and boosted to 60. All that boosting has put so much gold into the world there's nothing to do with it.. so GDKP becomes the meta and you have to do it now if you want to be able to afford consumables for raid. While ppl buy gold and gear and prices sky rocket the average player stays broke and bends the knee to the GDKP gods. lol at this point im like fk it put the boosts in add the token and try and let things balance out. At least we can say daddy blizzard is keeping the loot vs the 3rd party grps that slang low key and keep our economy in shambles. Also I'm retarded and dont know what I'm talking about.
I honestly like the level boost. it's only 1 per account and only to lvl 58. I leveled to 60 on my first server which died so I leveled 2 chars on 2 different servers to about 35 before just quitting becuz none of my friends continued playing anyways. now with the TBC transfer we also dont know if u get to choose which server to copy ur char too, or if it will automatically go to the same named TBC server (since it has been announced that the server names will all be the same). so Its possible I will want to boost to 58 on a more popular server as my original 3 servers might be underpopulated ones going into TBC.
epic
basedseason
For your boost video, you should mention the classic reddit AMA Blizz did when they outright told us boosts do not have a place in classic. www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/ct08c7/welcome_to_the_rclassicwow_subreddit_ama_with_the/exiano5?sort=top
Classic is enough for our life.
Can't wait for that level boost!
What do you mean by fresh bc and vanilla servers?
TBC will be full of bots just like vanilla. Much better mmos out there don't waste your time,
Who the hell is thumbs-downing my mans videos!?!
Finally people will bring my shaman and maybe i wont be forced to heal