Linus was right. - ECC Memory Explained

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  • Nikhil Paleti
    Nikhil Paleti2 dni temu

    "L.Torvalds was right about Intel being cocky" First article: "F*** you NVidia"

  • Zaptosis
    Zaptosis5 dni temu

    I've got old DDR3 RAM & it works perfectly fine without crashing. I imagine DDR4 is more reliable than DDR3, so the question should be. How often do errors happen anyways?

  • Daniel Hackney
    Daniel Hackney5 dni temu

    "Linus Torvalds may not have been polite about it, but he was definitely right" should go on Torvalds' tombstone. That is the essence of his being.

  • Las Realistas
    Las Realistas7 dni temu

    10 minutes to know that you did not do a STABILITY TEST!

  • Davnar Ragnar
    Davnar Ragnar10 dni temu

    Are you running your ecc in quad channel? If not, no point.

  • Jürgen Erhard
    Jürgen Erhard10 dni temu

    The "COSMIC RAYS" moment should have used Kirby Dots (AKA Kirby Krackle). But then, I *am* an old (literally) Marvel nerd.

  • M. B.
    M. B.12 dni temu

    I'm gonna trying ecc. Fusion 360 and Inventor crashes at daily base. Could it be so instability in software? Or is it memory instability? Any advising or suggestions about it?

  • DataLog
    DataLog14 dni temu

    Cosmic rays are usually the reason. They are unstoppable and unpredictable and pack a ton of energy.

  • Scratchy Nougat
    Scratchy Nougat17 dni temu

    8:00 - me trying to run something be like

  • Mittke88
    Mittke8820 dni temu

    Just buy Sennheiser HD 600. Thank me later.

  • Milosz Ostrow
    Milosz Ostrow20 dni temu

    ECC memory should have been implemented on personal computers by the late 1980s. It would have made microcomputing a couple of orders of magnitude more reliable, but only slightly more expensive.

  • Antonio Barbosa
    Antonio Barbosa22 dni temu

    ECC is just for stability and reliability I love it. I have a Xeon workstation with ECC and wouldn't want it any other way. It is good to know that AMD allows it... it is great to know actually :)

  • Diconica Bastion
    Diconica Bastion23 dni temu

    ECC "can" be about 2% slower. Also given you get about 1 correction every 14 to 40 hours per gigabit of dram the odds of it happening in that crucial spot that causes a system crash or anything else important is slim to none. I'm not saying it isn't important just that for most people it probably isn't going to be noticeable

  • Teliko Freedman
    Teliko Freedman24 dni temu

    8:45 "Thanks Linnus!" Wait that's how you pronounce your name? I always read it like Lai-nus.

  • ArceusPlaysGames
    ArceusPlaysGames25 dni temu

    Praise AMD

  • Prof.Haterade
    Prof.Haterade26 dni temu

    remember when ECC was cheaper than reg ram? ahh, the past times when buying computer components wasnt the price of a car.. those were the days

  • Gork Skoal
    Gork Skoal26 dni temu

    lol that has to be one weird sentence. Linus is was right about Linus being right. Ok so does that meen the Dude talks like the Rock? oh right one is the Linux guy the other is..ok so kind of the Linux guy. hmm Linus BreaksStuff vs Linus ProgramsStuff. their we go.

  • Michael N/A
    Michael N/A29 dni temu

    THANKS LINUS!!!! adjusting accordingly.

  • SC0RePIO
    SC0RePIO29 dni temu

    YES cosmic rays are bad - both for living biology & other electrically driven processes like computing.

  • What
    WhatMiesiąc temu

    Did anyone else see the reflection in the 2080?

  • Karan Singh
    Karan SinghMiesiąc temu

    8:55 are those rocks from Luke's pc?

  • Socialie plate
    Socialie plateMiesiąc temu

    yo, LTT talking about their father

  • kebien6020
    kebien6020Miesiąc temu

    1:48 [CC] parody data (not auto-generated) I mean. You can kind of bend the meaning of parody to make this work. But you probably meant parity.

  • Luc Timmerman
    Luc TimmermanMiesiąc temu

    Clickbait: titling your video after a famous person who you anecdote in the title

  • Glenn Roundy
    Glenn RoundyMiesiąc temu

    I would purchase ECC memory for my gaming rig if it could reach speeds of 3600mhz to 4000

  • SCALITY
    SCALITYMiesiąc temu

    In the beginning, ECC was standard.

  • Matthew Suffidy
    Matthew SuffidyMiesiąc temu

    Too bad they oc'd the cpu so it is blowing the memory to Swiss cheese anyway.

  • LAB Johnson
    LAB JohnsonMiesiąc temu

    Linus propaganda

  • djd14d
    djd14dMiesiąc temu

    I dont appreciate that you are trashing richard stallman and the entire gnu community, including me by attributing all our work to linus who only made the kernel. Please call it what it is, Gnu/linux

  • Jeronimo Torres
    Jeronimo TorresMiesiąc temu

    The problem of ecc is the price. I have a Intel Server and a amd gaming rig. The memory of the server is double the price of the memory of my gaming rig.

  • Kornolex
    KornolexMiesiąc temu

    Yes.. Torvalds was making a point about re-inventing the wheel in a shape of a rectangle just for the monetization.. We see this trend everywhere... people fall short, so they dig a hole for you to climb out of... of course they have the ladder..for a modest "fee". This is gain trough prohibiting the human development. Essentially anti-human behavior.

  • Kornolex

    Kornolex

    Miesiąc temu

    One could argue that facing an obstacle make us engage more.. but thats just throwing canes between the spokes so you can sell a bandage.

  • Michael Lenczewski
    Michael LenczewskiMiesiąc temu

    Two of my three fav. Famous Linuses. Good video!

  • TheVirtualiser
    TheVirtualiserMiesiąc temu

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  • Inspirationfree
    InspirationfreeMiesiąc temu

    I’ve been building machines with RAID 0+1 and ECC since 2002. Simply because I ran my CPU to render 3D art

  • Hexa
    HexaMiesiąc temu

    "Linus was right" and "RMS was right" are slowly becoming household names/phrases.

  • Valentin Kozin
    Valentin KozinMiesiąc temu

    When I was freelancing doing videos the render crashed so many times because the memory overheating (had to put an extra cooler for memory itself). Then I moved to the new platform with tons of ECC memory... and stoped making videos at all! :(

  • Wupadupa
    WupadupaMiesiąc temu

    wait so facebook doesn't have gamers backs?

  • xxxblackvenomxxx
    xxxblackvenomxxxMiesiąc temu

    ECC.. well, it's more expensive and doesnt only protects so much against failure. it *can* still happen, although at a much reduced rate. for gaming rigs it doesnt really pay. still, one should be able to use it, if he needs it. there's no use to have to go to workstation/server platforms.

  • GatoEpico
    GatoEpicoMiesiąc temu

    i heard hamming code saved space tech all the time , a little mistake and things can be destroyed , get lost in space or if tripulated by people they could have died. Im learning about it in the uni and keep failing the examns of it all the time.

  • mlslfit138
    mlslfit138Miesiąc temu

    Warning! I installed one of these modules (followed Linus's link) into my Asrock x570 steel legend (yes it has explicit support), and... it kind of worked. It was giving correctable and eventually uncorrectable errors (so yes, ECC was in fact working) until I bumped the voltage to 1.3v. It survived all torture tests after that at the default speed (3200mhz). Any attempt to increase the frequency resulted in a crash, so it operates right at the edge of tolerance. But, all was not well. The only problem that I'm having with this module installed is that it frequently refuses to reboot. Booting, and shutting down works fine, but rebooting often fails. I tried lowering the freqs to 2666, and still the problem persists. Bad module? I just asked newegg for a return-refund. :(

  • Bert Visscher
    Bert VisscherMiesiąc temu

    1:03 Do they finally have a Linux version?

  • Alpheus Madsen
    Alpheus MadsenMiesiąc temu

    I thought this was going to be about NVidia, which generated the birdie that illustrated the video. (Linus Torvolds was right about that, too!)

  • filip_boucek
    filip_boucekMiesiąc temu

    i need that cpu pillow

  • Smart Tech Muhamad Shokry
    Smart Tech Muhamad ShokryMiesiąc temu

    Well done 👍

  • dabartos
    dabartosMiesiąc temu

    this is outrageous! As a gamer I have to eat doritos now? I like potato chips, I don't want to switch

  • Joost
    JoostMiesiąc temu

    So I guess ECC will come with RGB soon

  • Budman
    BudmanMiesiąc temu

    I thought that was sam hyde in the thumbnail lmao

  • 8yter
    8yterMiesiąc temu

    Intel cut ECC support for consumer i3 and Pentium Gold since the 10th gen. They want me buying the Xeon W-1250, but I need a lower power CPU and the fun fact: The W-12xx are hard to get. So how can I send my money to Intel if they don't want it?

  • ruediix
    ruediixMiesiąc temu

    Linus Torvalds "Charming", ROFL. I'm a Linux nerd and I think Linus Torvalds can be a bit blunt sometimes to put it lightly. Linus Torvalds went with the Monolithic kernel for Linux to prove a point. That's how "Charming" he is.

  • Eric Lopez
    Eric LopezMiesiąc temu

    I got ECC RAM in my work computer and dual core xeon. I love my work computer! I believe my work machine is RDIMM

  • Tristan Draper
    Tristan DraperMiesiąc temu

    So give it about 6 months before AMD's ECC can out perform non-ECC got it

  • joel gilbert
    joel gilbertMiesiąc temu

    i can almost hear the word glasswire when he says "sponsor"

  • Paul S
    Paul SMiesiąc temu

    Some day soon (I hope) Linus, you'll come over from the dark side and focus more on the OS that your namesake has built for you :-D

  • ArtisChronicles
    ArtisChroniclesMiesiąc temu

    I've had memory crashes that could've been avoided with ECC lol

  • Default
    DefaultMiesiąc temu

    hey linus ecc is actualy cheaper and a lot in ddr3 on aliexpress if you can bare the 1month delivery of course, and memory crashes come on... a ddr4 memory crash for any of us? a pc crash caused by ddr4 memory is equaly likely than a fridge falling from the sky at your car at 1.december 2035, ecc is great for editors of big projects or for servers but for gamers? nah dont bather buying it it wont make a difference

  • Photodeus
    PhotodeusMiesiąc temu

    My next system is gonna be any decently priced CPU+Mobo that supports ECC. No matter the cost... well, hopefully at not too much extra cost.

  • ThexWITCHxMaster
    ThexWITCHxMasterMiesiąc temu

    If I want to overclock my memory I just cut on XMP and call it a day.

  • ThexWITCHxMaster
    ThexWITCHxMasterMiesiąc temu

    3:06. Its me 😮...

  • Israeli PR Shill
    Israeli PR ShillMiesiąc temu

    Imagine not commenting: ""“Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “PLclip is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "Dream" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Pokemon cards" "card unboxing" "Charizard" "they don't want you to know" "Flat earth" "round earth" "triangle earth" "the earth is not earth" "what even is earth if not earth omg government is lying to you" "Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “PLclip is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "music" "dj" "love" "rap" rapmusic" "rapper"

  • *Hérétic
    *HéréticMiesiąc temu

    losing a few fps ... oh not ready for that.

  • rommel pangilinan
    rommel pangilinanMiesiąc temu

    thanks man

  • Erik Viborg
    Erik ViborgMiesiąc temu

    Love the selfie reflection in the 2080 super :D

  • Heinrich Kreuser
    Heinrich KreuserMiesiąc temu

    09:00 but do they work on Linux?

  • Yeetor Yeetor
    Yeetor YeetorMiesiąc temu

    This is why I don’t watch Linus much anymore, it feels like he just bashes on Intel in most of his videos. Now I understand AMD makes good products but, it get annoying hearing Intel succ AMD goog every vid

  • HEAVY UNIT NOOB
    HEAVY UNIT NOOBMiesiąc temu

    5:37 That reflection is good

  • Doki Bubó
    Doki BubóMiesiąc temu

    nvidia fucked with everybody.hail to amd!

  • ronsum
    ronsumMiesiąc temu

    1:48 "Parody data" in CC, lol

  • martixy
    martixyMiesiąc temu

    "Parody data", what? Who does these subtitles, and how do you fix them?

  • Julian Vincent
    Julian VincentMiesiąc temu

    The furry furtive oven peroperatively number because wasp incidentally crash after a absorbing hub. old, momentous napkin

  • Antidote Harry
    Antidote HarryMiesiąc temu

    Beard, beenie and a hoodie, are you a drug addict, linus?

  • Rider0fBuffalo
    Rider0fBuffaloMiesiąc temu

    Don't buy a car that has a drive computer without ecc.

  • James Wilson
    James WilsonMiesiąc temu

    If you're hosting a game like ark even in a non-dedicated session this can reduce crashes.

  • Arno nümuss
    Arno nümussMiesiąc temu

    I'm running my R5 3600 with 64GB of micron single rank ecc ram. One more advantage to the stability is, that it runs 3200Mt/s at 1.2V and stays perfectly cool without the need for heat spreaders. The standard voltage also has the advantage, that it runs the 3200Mt/s stock without having to use D.O.C.P. . And it might be more gentle to the cpu's memory controller.

  • WaterSpecteclz
    WaterSpecteclzMiesiąc temu

    Wait Wait Wait hol' up. is that a crunchyroll hat?

  • MajStealth
    MajStealthMiesiąc temu

    128gb of ram, pffff i am working on a server right now, i want to adress, quite cheap one still, that has also 128gb of ram, but still 20 slots empty, and it could also take another cpu too...

  • logan holmberg
    logan holmbergMiesiąc temu

    ECC is not worth the price. Especially in Workstations. I'm managing 20 CAD stations in my workplace I switched out from ECC to regular PC memory and none of my users notice a difference in performance or crashes. And my tracking proves this out over the past 8 years. Save the money and put it to something else (another stick of ram maybe?) or get a thumbs up from your boss for saving a few hundred bucks on the new workstations you purchased under budget.

  • ANIS BENZ
    ANIS BENZMiesiąc temu

    Linus Torvalds video in Linus Tech Tips channel lmao

  • Aaron SemlerPDX
    Aaron SemlerPDXMiesiąc temu

    8:36 "But if you want the utmost instability..." haha!

  • Anik Samiur Rahman
    Anik Samiur RahmanMiesiąc temu

    Thanks, Linus! And Linus Torvald! I didn't even know about ECC b4!

  • Mariusz Podlesny
    Mariusz PodlesnyMiesiąc temu

    1:47 "parody data" ?!? Eeee... What? :) I think that might be "parity data". "Parody" is current overall supply situation...

  • Jani Palonen
    Jani PalonenMiesiąc temu

    Anyone who has edited IPB h264 4k or any other highly compressed codec in premiere knows the quality of life that ECC brings.

  • Mike Bruzzone
    Mike BruzzoneMiesiąc temu

    mb

  • TheBrazilRules
    TheBrazilRulesMiesiąc temu

    I was watching this whole video thinking "Who cares?"

  • Lucas Cunha Rocha
    Lucas Cunha RochaMiesiąc temu

    of fucking course it was pannenkoek who discovered it...

  • Najd Al-Oqaili
    Najd Al-OqailiMiesiąc temu

    Why ECC ram have better performance and faster than the one without ECC?

  • Pierre C
    Pierre CMiesiąc temu

    The fact that there is no distinction between executable code and data means that your program could jump at the wrong address and crash the system by jumping just about anywhere.

  • Jeremy Pegan
    Jeremy PeganMiesiąc temu

    Inverted bits are the worst. Ask Bruce Jenner.

  • corason live
    corason liveMiesiąc temu

    #FUNVIDIA !!!

  • Pyrolight
    PyrolightMiesiąc temu

    50 bucks more? nooooooooooooooooope waste of money.

  • Alex K.
    Alex K.Miesiąc temu

    Linus Torvalds is one of my tech heroes.

  • NewCalipso Delavara
    NewCalipso DelavaraMiesiąc temu

    Linus is right that Linus was right.

  • Big Cazza
    Big CazzaMiesiąc temu

    me running tREFI at 65535 and tRFC at 220 ecc who?

  • lerlerler1
    lerlerler1Miesiąc temu

    On average pc this kind of errors happen once a three years man.

  • A true meme master
    A true meme masterMiesiąc temu

    Since i use Linux this ecc memory compatibility will be useful for compiling code without ending up with a failed binary executable

  • vaino

    vaino

    Miesiąc temu

    will it really... i mean it probably would like twice in your life but i think you've got some bigger problems if all your code is resulting in a failed executable lol

  • iPan Zer0
    iPan Zer0Miesiąc temu

    Well everyone is into building their own server now adays, its only logical to make ecc available to every device.

  • Joe Craft
    Joe CraftMiesiąc temu

    I run a minecraft server off my computer. Wishing for better single thread cpu, Or Minecraft becoming multi thread. I allocate about 10 of my 16 gb of ram(not a big server). If my ram is not working properly, I find out really quickly.

  • tom joe
    tom joeMiesiąc temu

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  • coladict
    coladictMiesiąc temu

    Do memory errors ever happen if the stick is not defective?

  • Nicholas Gawler-Collins
    Nicholas Gawler-CollinsMiesiąc temu

    I thought Linus was talking about himself.

  • arsssis
    arsssisMiesiąc temu

    “Utmost instability, thanks AMD” wow.... slip of the tongue there? Must have been lost in the post...

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